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• Tor Slettnes March 10th, 2010 at 3:16 pm #1

  This has been updated again, I originally said before the phone commercially available in the U.S.. After receiving one and tried to save in Singapore, I decided to keep my N95 8GB and wait for the N97 instead. First of all, I was not impressed, and keyboard design, such as a flat surface provides very little guidance to help you meet the right keys. Plus, N85 and N96 is not only a gradual upgrade, neither offers the kind of pioneering progress that N95 had two years ago.

  Yes, it is compulsive gadget geek, I fell in a moment of weakness. As the price began to drop (and it has declined rapidly, and will continue to do so!) I have read. A couple of factors that are not for me it was a bright, sharp screen (and it is fabulous!) And its smaller, pocket-friendly size N95. In addition, I found the new features it offers: Tri-band UMTS ( “world” 3G) FM transmitter, the user interface update “implications of the move.”

  I was soon taken with N85. In addition to being very attractive and modern design than the N95 (N95-3 in particular, now seems klunky), but there are lots of small details that are set and the user interface makes generally more pleasant experience.

  ; One thing that came to me, as apparently many others, is a question of build quality. Upon receipt of the N85 is used in less than two weeks, a lot of dust gathered on the screen – shows, it is not sealed properly secured to the bottom. I returned to Amazon compensation – First, I have not subscribed to N96, because this question. Shows that the N96 had other problems (especially with regard to its slow and a bit run-time access memory), so I came back, even on my second N85. This time, I was more lucky, and I can now say I have never been so happy the other phone.

  The initial review of the following, including some reasons I had to pull out, I selected the updates, if necessary.

  Both the N85 and N96 include almost all the features of the N95: GPS w / optional voice navigation, 5 megapixel camera with LED flash (although the use of these new models, two LEDs are brighter images indoors), and a built-in geotagging support up to 32GB of removable storage μSDHC (now 16 GB is the largest available), Standard 3 5mm headphones / earphones, which also turned into a TV port, a comprehensive Bluetooth suppport, and last but not least, Symbian S60 (by far the most popular smartphone operating system in the world, far ahead of Windows Mobile, Blackberry OS, iPhone, etc. – are responsible for the many applications available). My assessment of the N95 8GB look a bit more information. In addition, N95, N85 and N96 had a “normal” version of the international market, “NAM” version of increased support for U.S. 3G networks.

  N85 and N96 differ as follows:
  UPDATE: I have the older N95 8GB in the mix for comparison.

  * N85 is a 2 6 “OLED screen, while the N95 8GB and N96 are 2 8″ standard LCD monitor. OLED offers brigher colors, especially in sunlight, and lower power consumption (longer battery life). This is because the pixels themselves to illuminate, rather than rely on the backlight to do so.

  * Both the N85 and N96 are enabled S60 release 3 “Feature Pack 2″, which means that they support the “Impact of the transition” is a more flexible user interface and overall interactive experience. Above all, it seems N85 is generally more “modern” than the earlier N95. (Added 3/19/09)

  * Quad-band also GSM/2G (850/1900 MHz in North America, the world outside the 900/1800 MHz), N85 is also a tri – band UMTS radio. North American version supports 850/1900 MHz UMTS frequencies (eg AT & T) and 2100 MHz for roaming internationally, N85 8GB NAM and N96 NAM only supports 850/1900 MHz. (In contrast to the international versions of the N85 and N95/N96 support 900/1900/2100 MHz, and simply 900/2100 MHz, respectively). In short, it means that if you take the N85 you are abroad, you should still be faster than 3G coverage in most places, if any, which was not true either N95 and N96. (Plus, one of North America designs, N85 is the only one that also has operations in Japan, because there is 2G/GSM network is only available for 3G/UMTS over 2100 MHz).

  * N85 has a built-in FM transmitter, voice calls and stream music to your car stereo for example. This is especially useful if your car is equipped with Bluetooth (including A2DP) technology.

  * N96 has a built-in TV tuner, which supports DVB-H (Digital Video Broadcasting for Handheld). However, this feature is not available in North American version, since such broacasts not available here. AT & T, like other U.S. operators have instead decided to use MediaFLO digital video broadcasting.

  * N96 has 16GB of built-in mass storage device except μSDHC place. This, in theory, you can store up to 48GB by adding information about the 32GB μSDHC card. N95 8GB is limited to 8 GB of memory during their lifetime, while the N85 is μSDHC slot (I use the 16 GB card in it).

  * N85 processor contains 369 MHz ARM11 core, while the N96 has two 264 MHz ARM9. It is difficult to say which one is better, but both use Symbian S60 v3 Feature Pack 2, which provides significant improvements in the interactive feel of more than N95 (which included a 333 MHz ARM11 core). As I said, none of these is a graphic processor that the N95 does not, so the applications (mostly games) that are optimized for it by running much faster than the older N95. N95 also has to win hands down JBenchmark trials.
  3/18/09 UPDATE: Now that I have owned / tried all three, I can say that it is generally N85 snappiest a tire. N96, however, is relatively inefficient, are still having problems with streaming audio to my Pioneer car stereo via Bluetooth A2DP without hickups was 11-12 seconds. As interactive use, and N85 and the N96 seems to be a bit faster than the older N95.

  * Some people have complained about low-cost, plastic build quality of N85 (see eg Howard Forums), among other things, the keyboard seems a bit thin and simply glued to the phone. People who have tried, and generally seem to prefer N96 for this account.
  2/8/09 UPDATE: After a few days’ use of N85 below the belt, I would say that it is not worse than the N95. The keys are flat and less tactile feedback, so it can be a bit harder to text with one hand, but it is not worse than the Motorola RAZR, for example, or in some Samsung phones.
  UPDATE 2/19/09: As mentioned above, I had that problem with the screen peeling off base, and dust removal underneth.
  3/19/09 UPDATE: My N85 is a replacement star.

  * N85 is smaller (usually less than the screen), and it fits easily into your pocket. UPDATE: Both the N85 and N96 is thinner than the N95.

  * Both the N85 and N96 uses micro-USB standard (slightly wider and flatter than the mini-USB connector Just like the N95), and no two can be downloaded via the port also. In addition, the Nokia N96 a separate charger jack. Now this is a reason not to replace my N95 and N85: This contact is at the top of the phone! I think this is a stupid (and the only reason why I hold my stars), because it excludes the possibility of a third-party manufacturers to create yards and cradles, so you just enter the shipyard’s own N85 and the sync / charge. This is particularly important in the car, if you plan to use the GPS feature of this phone (remember that when the GPS receiver is turned on, the batteries drain pretty quickly). My N95 8GB, I just got Brodit / ProClip device with the owner of the corresponding mounting holes PANAVISE years, and voila – I have a very nice little GPS device / music player / etc are easily accessible, the N85 is certainly a little tricky in that regard. UPDATE: Of course I caved and got N85-case. [. . . ] It is now the cradle for N85 – but as I said, we require that you have to download the plug connector into the phone.

  * As always, beware of a rather depressing, repair / warranty service, Nokia Sweden (c / o Palco). You buy it, you own it. You should be able to do most repairs myself, but with elements of t. CNN. cn – when it becomes available in the device. UPDATE: The various client accounts, both here and [. . ] Show that Palco had a much better lately.

  All this said, the important thing is that there are simply no match for these phones, in terms of their large number of functions and features found in them. Certainly there are phones there is more emphasis on usability and eye candy (eg iPhone), and that there are those who have their own unique features / Tricks (such as Google Apps for the new T-Mobile G1) – but Nokia S60 smartphones is generally clean working horses the best overall features.

  N85 pushes the boundaries a little further, and is perhaps the most resources to the phone on the market today. But if you’re worried solid build, you should consider the N95 8GB and N96 instead. Or wait for the newly launched N86 8MP, which seems much more attention must be paid to build quality.

• Geekapoo March 10th, 2010 at 3:31 pm #2

  First of all Nokia phones have the best reception of all phones on the market. In addition, the call quality is exceptional. This is one of the main reasons why I bought this phone. Tried iPhone. . . . Amazing gadget, but a mediocre reception (not a Google search on) and a bad camera. Tried Samsung Eternity. . . including a really nice gadget, but so, so that reception and call quality.

  I have a house in Boston and Vermont. VT is a house in the mountains and the N85 is the first mobile phone that my wife and I never used that worked in the house. . . . 3 bars. Moto Razor, 2 BlackBerrys, Sony Ericcson 810I, iPhone and Samsung Eternity. . . had no reception. . . N85 is a stick in this department. Also love the N85 is a slider and a superb 5MP camera w / flash. The browser is quite fast, the screen turned from vertical to horizontal smooth and has 3 5mm headphone jack STD. Previously tried the Nokia N78. . . . loved the phone, but was tad long (for example, the form factor better than the N85), and really do not like the N78 keypad (the kind that are needed to help my nails). I like the shape of the N85 much more than n78/n82n95/n96. Does not that if you make a lot of SMS, N85 might not be for you, you may be happier with a keyboard. One problem I have is that the phone is so striking appearance, that when I use it (especially when the camera), people will want to check it out. . . . . create a pleasant drive.

  Overall, if you care about most in the reception and the quality of phone calls. . . Buy Nokia. . . . N78 was amazing. . . I had a couple of years ago (3000 series), but also incredible. . . . need not be so expersive than N-series phone. Nokia makes the best phones in the world. . . . can not make the best stuff (the iPhone has truly WOW factor). . . . but their ability to make phone is incredibly

  Advantages:
  Amazing reception, not wasted / dropping calls than other brands (especially a problem if the reception is not strong ) < , br />
  solid products, know good quality and good form factor

  great camera! I love that it’s a slider lens cover that activates the camera opens

  FM radio, FM transmitter (to use it more than I thought)
  
  WiFi and Bluetooth (very easy to make connections)

  Unlocked 3G (use ATT)

  GPS (N78 GPS tried to think N85 is the same)

  3 5mm headphone socket, good quality speaker (received)

  Fast browser

  Love 2 direction control (keyboards, mp3 control)
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  Brilliant display

  Cons:
  The keyboard is not ideal , can be about texting often

  price of what some people are willing to pay

• R. Jamieson March 10th, 2010 at 5:38 pm #3

  Got a Nokia N85 sight read the Amazon as X-Mas present to me. I’ve had it 2 weeks and the battery is good. Reception and sound quality is excellent. AM-OLED display is wonderful. 8GB microSDHC, preinstalled with the phone, which was a pleasant surprise, because it is not clear from the Amazon description. The graphics are good mobile number. I used the GPS once and it locked Batch rich quickly from a cold start, but I have not tried turn by turn directions yet. MP3 player exits nice and hard, select headphones when connecting to my AUX jack in my car stereo.
  So far I am very satisfied with handset Swiss army knife, a list of options and performance, in addition to (and I’m not sure how other Amazon reviewers lived here) N85’s plastic housing is very cheap and flimsy. Battery cover is loose and rattles to the cheap dollar to save a dime store toy factory. Plastic Paint scratches very easily, too. I’m afraid, and dropping the phone and as soon as I ran to get a good snug case belt clip, and it is. The last phone had all the metal parts Motorola SLVR L7, which was built as alternatives to the Sherman tank, although the wisdom and the call quality can not compare the N85 otherwise N85 but does not reach the building, materials and finishes, and old SLVR L7.

  lesson is that this is the last time you buy an expensive duty-free phone, without seeing it in reality first. If I would have done it, I would have carried the N85. My advice is to return to a strict Nokia Install aluminum or other high-quality metal housing to build and keep the plastic shell of less than $ 200 and a telephone line, or I will not repeat its customers and more than $ 400 smart phones and over again.
  Btw, Amazon had a great night of shipping and I had the N85 in my hand the day I would fly out of the country just before the holiday. Amazon does not dissappoint not me, but Nokia does not Barber with.

• Vladimir Andreyev March 10th, 2010 at 7:03 pm #4

  I have owned several Nokia phones: 2190, 6190, 8890, 6310i, 6230, 6133rd These were all “dumb” phones, but I think they were very good for its time, especially the last. This time I decided to go to the Nokia N85 smartphone and chosen because of its amazing array of features, compact size, affordable price and well after the repair.

  As a novice on the S60 user, I will not write about it a lot. Of course it is very mature and powerful software platform that is easy to use. Of course, some fiction, and a few things seem as they have done a bit better on the Series 40, but this is generally a pleasure to use, from the software point of view. Like other current Nseries, this is a true multimedia powerhouse. Unfortunately, I am disappointed with the hardware.

  biggest disappointment is the OLED display. I do not understand why all dizzy about it. The problem is that it is unable to produce any shade of gray, which is immediately apparent when the standard is a Nseries theme gray abstract figures in the background is selected. The black looks brown. Even if the brightness is higher, with a hint of gray and brown, and the brightness control in the middle, all on a brownish hue. I’m not really the material that the phone has been made. It looks better than the pictures in your hand. I like Matte plastic, free from dirt and fingerprints as much.

  The next problem is a central key and Navi wheel. They are loose and vague. My button is pretty loud clicking sound. Navi wheel is too narrow, and the central button is too close, so I always turn down arrow keys and center button simultaneously, which gives a clicking sound even higher. Fortunately hit both keys still got the desired result, but control can also be difficult for little fingers. Touch-sensitive Navi wheel is a trick that works sometimes, it’s easier to just use the scroll keys. Other buttons on the front of the phone is a bit harder to press than I want, and even loud clicks. I see that Nokia has addressed this issue in the N86, which seems to distinguish the keys, while the soft menu on the left, soft on the right menu, main menu and clear buttons for N85 are from a plastic. Dial Pad is a good thing, however.

  Camera in this phone also does not impress me. Do not expect to replace the usual point-and-shooter. It is nice to have a 5 megapixel camera with you at all times, for safety’s sake, but you still want to bring your own camera to the major tours and events. The same problem is the built-in stereo speakers: I’ve never seen or heard of Nokia with a good speaker. Sony Ericsson phones sound better.

  Phone is a bit heavy and almost impossible to use the slide closed, the buttons so close to the bottom, but it’s okay, and the image open. Spring-loaded sliding mechanism works well, but the opening of multimedia party is not as easy as opening the wheel side of the PAD, it seems to me that I will stop the phone when I try to get the multimedia keys. Battery cover is a bit loose, but it’s not really a problem. The good news is that it is easy to remove and replace, if you want to change the batteries and / or SIM card often.

  So, what can I say finally? I am thinking, versatility and S60 3rd Edition FP2 and the largest in the world of existing programs in order to overcome the problems definitely N85 hardware. I’m sure you can use it. If it had been more expensive, I am seriously considering to return it and find other alternatives, but I think it supports the $ 300 that I paid for it (after rebate), and I am glad to finish.

  , update after they had a 2 months PHONE:
  I would like to add that I think has not changed since then, when I had the phone for 2 months. Than I thought, I could use the phone and its weaknesses, which is easy to forget. I was a bit skeptical when I first heard about the Nokia Nseries label “multimedia computers”, but I must say, they were right: this phone deserves the title really. The software is a bit buggy, but Nokia has already released a major firmware update for N85 option, so they offer one of North America’s model very soon. If you are still unsure, I strongly recommend this phone. It’s the best value right now.

• nokia6230 March 10th, 2010 at 7:13 pm #5

  So I have now N75. I had before the 6230th I left the candybar 6230 and tab, and then N75 slider N85.

  I did lots of research, including access to telephony. I have read almost all the N85 again on Google and then some. 3G to be both a good camera.

  I saw the N79, N78, N82, N95 and N95 8GB.

  I do not exclude that the N79 and N82 because they do not have 3G (I have AT & T).

  N78 was good, because it takes me back to the candy-style (I’m not sure the sustainability of the controls), but the camera did not mention, and it was only 3 2MP. Plus, said most of the reviews the software is buggy and almost the same price, you get N85 and more features. The clear button on the underside of the circuit-breaker has a lot also.

  So I went to the shop and the Nokia N95 8GB was shocked by the display. It looked just massive. I saw on a regular N95 in black or red, but it was embedded in the display and I do not like the fact that (hard to keep clean). And just what is considered fat. In addition, the no two LED flash and lens cover, or is the FM transmitter.

  I’ve fallen down to either this or the N95 8GB phone.

  I ended up OLED was better than the LCD (and the battery and view ability). And navigation key was bigger and there is the additional benefit with Navi wheel. N85 was also the lens cover and dual LED. Plus Euro 3G compatibility on US3G. Plus for Symbian OS 3rd W / Feature Pack 2

  I was sold and I have tried to play on the phone last week. . .

  Build Quality. .
  Someone said that it was made in China, so it must suck. Well, my N75 was in Finland and it was a horrible thing. It fell apart a few months (depending on the problem). So this phone, I read in both directions. . Some said that the fixed part of it is thin. I have seen all the phones in my hand and it feels pretty solid. Does not wobble when the slide is opened or closed. Plastic does not feel cheap at all. It is not attracting thumbprint or fat than N75 does. Or maybe you do not see it as much as it is all in black.

  MP3 player. .
  It came to the 8GB card is filled with music and album art:

  Blind Sorrow – Pritchard, banks, Coon, Dilk
  Bring the House Down – Ben Wheeler
  Hot Nights “- Ian Clarke and Simon Painter
  Love Forever – Vanessa Condev
  See Me Alive – Winyls
  Waste – Robert J . Walsh, Robert Grade
  Whenever You Say Love Me – Day Eleven
  Will not Let Go – Negative
  You Got The Message – Gracie Leigh
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  Navi wheel works well when you scroll through songs (iPod seems to just browse:)

  Software..
  Everytime you get a menu, and you end the second.. you must tap the button twice. When you are calling from another to actually select it. Kinda annoying, but I’m used to it.

  Games as included w / Free Trial:

  Block Breaker – I’ve had it before, not so. Deleted.
  Space Impact Kappa Base as a good shooter Galaga w / excellent graphics,
  Tetris – no change from the typical Tetris game
  Snakes Subsonic – awful. Confusing and graphics suck.
  Asphalt 3 Street Rules – beautiful pictures, but in the short term trial
  FIFA08 – Once you have selected (landscape or portrait), you can not change it. I took the scenic thought it was a lateral approach, but it was ultimately a portrait.. So I can not use the band.
  World Series of Poker – Good game
  Brain Challenge – choose to respond by moving it upwards, DWN, LFT, right
  Bounce – long install (5 + min) and long load times Fire It Up.
  Sims2 Pets –
  Creatures of the Deep –
  Midnight Pool –
  Reset Generation < ; br />
  I have not been for the last four matches so I have no comment on them. NGage App is pretty good for a couple minutes or so to waste time, but certainly not replace the PSP or DS. The side buttons are too small. It will make your hands cramp.

  Now Here’s why I love this phone:

  JoikuSpot Light —

  This program Turns 3G phone connection to the WiFi hotspot. I use the iPod touch w / version 2 to connect to the Internet. If I open the possibility of losing the connection when you’re free. Shared WEP is not the same as well. WEP Open works well and stay connected until you disconnect. The only limitation I found was that there is no link to any secured sites. Ie Bank of America app for the iPod touch has not been contacted. 3-4 hours and use a fully charged battery.

  Webradio –

  Inculdes FM radio to your area. Some AM radio too. Not as good as Pandora (no album art or music in the background literature), but good enough. Lots of free music in the ad and it can be transmitted through your car stereo with an FM transmitter, a fully charged battery lasted about 3 hours just by using this app a non -stop.

  Google Maps –

  I read somewhere that 3rd party applications can not use GPS, but it is not true. Google Maps location were acquired within a few seconds. Or sometimes a couple of minutes. It will drain the battery, though.

  Nokia Maps –

  Turn-by -turn voice navigation is free for three months. I have tried and works very well. Again the phone because it could not get a GPS signal 30 minutes. There is no shade, so you know when to turn it really is all about and says.. “Now, then right 200 yds remaining 2nd 1 miles “I think it’s a good backup GPS, but no compensation. I say this because I can not hold the line and I do not have a car charger. It drained about halfway full payment within 45mins.

  Download!

  app / link that shows all the available software, which can be downloaded from the phone. Most are free, and most studies are useful. I have Accuweather Bug (weather is nice, but you must pay for it!). Fring is all in one IM (Yahoo, GTalk, goals, etc.), and it’s free. You can also make VoIP calls while on WiFi, but I have not tried it.

  Overall, Feature Pack 2 is definitely better than the N75. It’s hard to explain, but there are some small things that annoyed me the N75 has been considerably strengthened or changed at this time.

  The front panel on the green button (call) and the red button (link) is quite separate buttons, which is good. I could not see the pictures.
  < ; br /> FM Transmitter –

  I thought I could send me a phone call over the radio, but it does not work. What works with Internet radio / podcast / MP3 player with voice AGPS Nokia Maps. You have a commercial free radio / music, which disappears when the nav voice comes on and evaporates back when it is done to provide guidance. Awesome.

  Battery Life –

  2 5hrs Internet radio
  3 5hrs just JoikuSpot Light
  Internet on / off, lights, texting, thin – 6-8h

  OLED –

  recall that when I took the lid off and saw the 6230 LCD display “naked” and I thought, ‘Wow, this is quite clear. Direct sunlight does not make the screen unviewable. But in indoor / car, it is an excellent display.

  Keyboard –

  obviously less than N75, but almost as high as 6230 so I have no complaints. It does not get some getting used to txting / flat keyboard to write, but I’m used to it after a few days.

  what I do not like it, tel:

  -USB charging port. Although it will not be w / USB wall charger, it is no longer possible to borrow a friend’s house and a Nokia charger.
  -Front buttons are a bit hard to press. Compared with the N82 navigation is certainly more difficult to press. N82 seemed to win, this is not so much.
  -naviwheel is not perfect. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.
  FM transmitter was a bit weak. no longer than an arm’s length, and the Fazed out.
  -Music Store has not been used yet that the United States.

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